Can I abandon the BBQ theme Menu and simply use WordPress Default?

This support request was posted in BBQ by JayTea

Request ID #2528 Resolved
  • Hello Juan,

    So, I had set up my menu using the prescribed BBQ settings of defining categories and food items. That worked out OK however, the client’s menu was huge. In fact, it was so huge that they had decided that they’d like me to separate out key areas of the menu which would allow visitors to just focus on each area – one at a time (each area on it’s own page) rather than simply directing users to a section of a huge scrolling page.

    We’re wondering if there is an easy way to abandon the parameters and essentially disuse the BBQ menu system and instead revert back to the standard WordPress default empty page designation where Menu in the primary navigation simply becomes a parent page. I don’t know how to simplify my question or request…

    let’s see… they no longer want to use the BBQ menu system. I have already dumped all of the BBQ food menu and categories page content – all is deleted. On the other hand, I have set up new pages in which I have separated out each major category of the overall menu and when I tried to view those dropdown links I now get an empty blank page. I don’t see what the problem is. Hopefully, it’s something simple that can be turned on or off and presto, all of the content that’s waiting to be shared suddenly appears. In other words, all of the content that I had deleted from the BBQ theme menu system I have replaced in separate “pages” that are connected to the “parent” page (Menu) which is in the primary navigation. I also went under Appearance/Menu and setup the primary navigation structure with the corresponding child pages indented under the parent “Menu” page. Regardless of all of this, the content on each of those pages is not viewable. And no, I didn’t delete the content from the new pages. You can open up each of those child pages and see that they do in fact contain content. It just won’t show up on the site. I’m stumped. The site is 99% completed. We just need to get this settled.

    Do you think you can go into my site and see if I you can make heads or tails of how I should shut down the BBQ food menu system so that my new child pages can be viewable?

    Thank you!

    Best,
    JayTea

    Hello JayTea,

    Thanks for writing. If I’m getting you correctly, you just need to go to “Appearance > Menus” and leave blank the “Location” for the “Navigation Menu”.

    Best,
    Juan.

    Hi Juan,

    So, I went into Appearance > Menus and looked for “Location” and couldn’t find it. Also, if what I think you’re suggesting I do is to undesignate PRIMARY as the setting for Navigation menu, my primary navigation gets all messed up, out of order and the wrong items show up in the Primary nav spot on the site. If you have some time could you just take a peek in there and see if you can see what I mean – or am I wrong – is there another “Location” to leave blank? Are we talking about the same thing? This is the problem with email descriptions without attached visuals – we’re left guessing at what each other is trying to say.

    Still confused. Please take a look in there (Appearance > Menus) and see if you can tell me specifically what needs to happen. Again, I didn’t see anything titled, “Location” to leave blank. Maybe I’m missing something, I don’t know.

    Thanks,
    JayTea

    Hi Juan,

    I think what you’re referring to is actually, “Theme Locations” not simply, “Location”. I didn’t see anything titled, “Location”. However, with “Theme Locations” located at the bottom of the Appearance > Menus page there is a check box option for either “Navigation Menu” or “Footer Menu”. Navigation Menu is checked which is allowing my current navigation menu to show up. Unfortunately, when I uncheck the Navigation Menu box, my primary navigation goes crazy and still, my “Menu > dropdown menus” all come up blank, even with the “Navigation Menu” box unchecked.

    I decided to keep this thread alive here vs. just emailing privately so people might be able to benefit from this should they experience the same problem. I hope by being specific, I’m helping to solve the problem faster and in the future, helping others. I’m still thinking this must be an easy fix…?

    Thanks,
    JayTea

    Hello,

    Yes, is theme locations – It is actually the same, you can read of it as location, menu location, theme location.

    What version of WordPress are you running?

    Juan.

    Hi Juan,

    The version of WordPress I am using is 3.7.1

    Curious to know what to do next.

    Thanks,
    JayTea

    Hi JayTea,

    Then you need to go to “Appearance > Menus” and you should see a tab named “Manage Locations”.

    Click over there, and leave “Select a menu” as “Assigned Menu” on the Navigation Menu.

    Juan.

    Hi Juan,

    So, I went to Appearance > Menus > Manage Locations > Navigation Menu and deselected PRIMARY and in it’s place selected “—Select a Menu—” and saved. When I toggled back over to the Edit Menus tab and scrolled down to the bottom of the page, I saw that Navigation Menu was now unchecked… ok… fine (kind of) but when I go back to the site view the Primary Nav is still messed up…

    The primary Nav should read as follows:

    ABOUT | MENU | GALLERY | EVENTS | TEA TRAVEL JOURNALS | CONTACT US

    The messed up primary nav reads as follows:

    ABOUT | CONTACT US | EVENTS | GALLERY | HOME | TEA MENU | TEA TRAVEL JOURNALS | MENU

    As you can see, the primary nav is two pages too long (tea menu and home don’t belong) and it’s not in the correct order.

    What to do now?

    Sorry this is such a problem. There should be an easy way.

    JayTea

    Hi JayTea,

    Your problem is fairly simple.

    With regards to the navigation menu you have two options.

    1) Create a navigation menu and assign it to a menu location.
    2) Leave the location blank and then the site will show the pages you have for your site. You’ll need to set the pages order and hierarchy.

    I’m not sure how is that is that you want to order your menu items, but with the two options I’ve mentioned above you should have no problem.

    Best,
    Juan.

    Hi Juan,

    I believe you’re correct in saying that the problem is fairly simple. I just don’t know if the solution is as simple as you’re suggesting it is.

    Your ideas:

    1) Create a navigation menu and assign it to a menu location.

    My response: I already have a navigation menu created – it’s called PRIMARY. All of my new pages and subpages live under this navigation menu. When I try giving it the location of MENU, none of my dropdown pages are populated with content when you click on them. However, when you go into view all pages and find those very same dropdown menu items and click on them there, you can clearly see the content. It just for whatever reason will not show up on the actual site. Something is blocking it. This is the real problem.

    2) Leave the location blank and then the site will show the pages you have for your site. You’ll need to set the pages order and hierarchy.

    My response: I had already looked into this a few different times and could not find any place to set the page order on each page other than under Appearance > Menu and looking in the right column where the PRIMARY menu hierarchy is already setup the way I’d like it. Did you look at my site? Did you go into the the Dashboard > Appearance > Menu like I’ve requested you do and see how I’ve set it up? If you had, you would have seen that my PRIMARY nav menu is ready to go with primary nav and sub nave all indented in order.

    Lastly, you said “I’m not sure how is that you want to order your menu items…”. I don’t know how you could say that when I clearly layed the heirarchy out in my last letter – here it is again (from left to right as it would appear on the site’s primary nav):

    ABOUT | MENU | GALLERY | EVENTS | TEA TRAVEL JOURNALS | CONTACT US

    What are you not sure about? This (above) is exactly how I want to order my menu items. If you’re referring to my dropdown menus – the ones that for some still unexplained reason aren’t allowed to show their content – I just get blank pages, all you have to do to see “how I want to order my menu items” with those dropdown menus is to look at the site and hover over the primary nav item: MENU and their all listed under there in hierarchical order. That was simple. That same hierarchy exists under the PRIMARY nav menu list on the Appearance > Menu page in the dashboard.

    Why does it seem like we’re crossing our paths here? Are we speaking the same language? It seems so. I understand what you’re suggesting – the problem with it is that if you dig into what I’ve already done, you’ll clearly see that I’ve already done these things. Sometimes you cannot suggest solutions from afar without actually looking at the specifics because again, you end up with vague directions and nothing gets solved.

    All I’m asking for here is to figure out why when I shut off the BBQ Food Menu and Menu Categories and setup new PRIMARY subpages – why those subpages are showing up blank on the site when each of those pages contains content when you look at them under PAGES. This my friend, makes no sense whatsoever. Your idea of creating navigation menu and assigning it to a menu location already exists. You could see that if you’d look at Appearance > Menu. Your idea of assigning the page order and hierarchy seems to be already set up = also in Appearance > Menu. Again, I don’t get what I haven’t done here.

    I thought you’d be able to look at my site and determine what the problem is by actually clicking around and seeing the issues I’ve been explaining to you. Maybe it’s something in the code that is only giving permissions to the BBQ Food Menu? If so, I wouldn’t know the first thing about that but maybe you would? Maybe, like you say, it’s really a simple problem. I don’t know why if it’s so simple why the solution hasn’t happened yet. Everything you’ve suggested I do is already done – already set up.

    This is frustrating. Like I said, I’m 99% of the way with the site – this is the last thing holding the site up from being finished. Those subpages under the MENU in the primary nav have no visible content on the live page. If you look at each of them under PAGES you’ll see each has content. So why isn’t that content showing up on the live site? Weird, weird, weird.

    Do you see?

    Thanks,
    JayTea

    actually, I digress…

    I had said… “When I try giving it the location of MENU”…. what I meant to say was “When I try giving it the location of PRIMARY”.

    Hi JayTea,

    At this point I’m not sure if I’m understanding what you need/want.

    Would you please tell me briefly what is that you want to do? (in no more than one paragraph).

    Thank you.
    Juan.

    Juan,

    I need/want the dropdown menu pages under MENU in the primary navigation to show their content when clicked on – right now I get a blank page when I click on them. Go to my site and hover over MENU and you’ll see the dropdown menu (Food – Meals & Snacks, Green Teas, etc.). Your previous solutions did not work. The primary navigation menu hierarchy is set up correctly.

    I hope this helps you.

    As ever,
    Jay

    I solved the problem a different way.

    I went back in and created a different page titled, MENUS and assigned all of my dropdown menus to that one and then dumped MENU in Appearance > Menus > Primary. It worked. I think that the original page titled, MENU which had been previously occupied by the BBQ Theme’s Food Menu setup had somehow been altered only allowing the Food Menus and Categories to show and since I had deleted all of those files, it was showing anything connected to it (dropdown menus) as blank pages.

    Word of advice to the users: If you find out that the BBQ Theme’s Food Menu setup becomes too cumbersome or doesn’t allow you the flexibility you need for your restaurant’s various different menus, you should follow my lead and set up your own menus using Pages and ignore the BBQ theme’s Food Menu and Menu Categories but know that if you use the Primary Navigation title “Menu”, that name seems to be associated with the BBQ theme’s special menu system. You may have to delete Menu and then create a new one in Pages which may break the link and allow you the flexibility you need. Wow. What a bunch of rigamarole! Also, if you have any questions for Juan, he seems to be a good guy and gets back in touch right away but know that he likes your questions to be very succinct and doesn’t like a lot of explanation so get to the point quickly… and I suggest be patient with him since he sometimes doesn’t relay specifics so you might have to ask more questions to get those specifics. I’d have to imagine he’s fielding a lot of questions and doesn’t have much time to devote to each one. Imagine being in his shoes. It must be tough. Thank you, Juan for at least trying with what little time I assume you must have. The theme rocks and everyone loves it who has seen it. Best of luck!

    JayTea

    Hi JayTea,

    Thanks for writing.

    I’m happy you find a solution. I’m also sorry about not being specific, I’ve been a bit confused about your problem for this one 🙂

    Please feel free to post any other concern, I’ll be more than happy to help you. Finally, thanks for your kind words about our product.

    Have a nice day,
    Juan

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